Palin Sexism & Misogyny Watch

Sorry I’ve been out of touch. I’ll be back soon, I promise! Maybe later tonight. In the meantime, I thought this post over the Reclusive Lefist needed more attention.

The New Agenda’s response.

Plotz rebuts, which Dr. Socks covers, so go there for that. I would just like to point out that Plotz not apologizing and being patronizing is no surprise whatsoever considering this article, in which he solicits Slate readers to submit their dreams about Palin, having, of course, first confessed his own. The post is offensive, but also offers some seriously [unintended] high comedy:

I rarely remember my dreams, but for the past week, GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin has been haunting me. Night after night, she appears in my dreams, always as a scolding, ominous figure.

When I mentioned my Palin dreams to Slate colleagues, they volunteered their own. One Obama-supporting colleague dreamed she had urged her young son to kill Palin with a string bean. Another dreamed she was at a fashion show and Palin served her crème fraîche on little scooped corn chips. A third says, “In the Sarah Palin dream I keep having, she has superhuman powers but is not really a person at all. In fact, she is more like the weather with glasses and an

up-do, pushing clouds around and pitching lightning bolts.”

Seems he has quite a fetish for the tight bun and the scold. There’s nothing wrong with that, of course, but when you bring your fetishes into the political realm, use your power as an editor to apply your fantasy to a woman of accomplishment who has never solicited your attention in such a manner, it makes you a fucking pervert and a sicko. And it makes us fight harder.


8 comments on “Palin Sexism & Misogyny Watch

  1. Palomino says:

    Hey, Erstwhile, that’s a bit harsh. Anyone halfway skilled in textual psychoanalysis could find boatloads of overtones, undertones, and ring tones of sexuality in those dreams, so you are misinformed and/or deficient in imagination. A (limp) string bean? Creme fraiche in edible little concave tidbits? Lightning bolts? Come on. You need a dose of mental Viagra.

    Mod Note: Comment crossed out as troll comment was deleted.

    As for the most insane thing posted on the Intertubez all week, here is my pick:

    I have to say, though, that this poster constantly threatens to outdo himself in the insanity department, so watch this space, I guess.

  2. Anna Belle says:

    I gotta admit, I was surprised at that post Pal. Poor Gary didn’t even seem to know that the article he was citing was from JUNE. There are much bigger issues. I don’t give a flying fuck whether Obama quit smoking or not, and I don’t think it says anything about his character if he didn’t. If anything, it says a great deal about the addictive nature of nicotine.

    PS: Thanks for having my back.

  3. Palomino says:

    I wasn’t surprised. “That one” is increasingly unhinged, and revealing himself to be a blog bully and a rather nasty little piece of work.

  4. MJM says:

    So I’m a cowardly misogynist troll?


    Can’t recall anything misogynistic about that post you deleted.

    As I recall it, I began by saying that this post of yours was the most insane thing I’d read all week.

    Then I posited that not every dream is laden with sexual undertones. (NB: One doesn’t find many Freudians about these days, Palomino. FTR, I’m a product of the Psychology department of a large Eastern university. And it’s true, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.)

    Digging myself even deeper, I averred that the dreams recounted in the article you quote seem particularly devoid of sexual content. Oh, the misogyny of it all.

    I concluded with (and this may not be strictly verbatim, but in my defense, I didn’t expect to have to reproduce that post from memory at the time) “I fear that you may very badly need to get a grip upon reality,” or words–not dissimilar words, I’ll note–to that effect.

    I did not call anyone a “fucking pervert” or a “sicko.” Heck, I didn’t even call anyone “cowardly” or a “troll.”

    I’ve “known” Anna Belle, online and on rare occasion off-, for maybe seven years now. Once I had great regard for her analyses and opinions, as well as for her personally. Times, it would seem, have changed.

    If what you wrote is really what you take away from that article, Li’l Sis, and “cowardly misogynist … troll[‘s] … spoo” is what you took away from that deleted post, then my ambiguously-phrased misgivings are only strengthened: You’re off your damned meds again, aren’t you? You know that that’s not good for you.

    I don’t have the time, nor the desire, to defend my (reasonable, it seems to me) position that your take on that article reveals a degree of paranoia often seen during manic episodes. And given that this post will probably not see the light of noontime, I don’t see the point, really.

    I don’t think I’ve ever been called a “troll” before. First time for everything, I reckon.

    I’m damned sure I’ve never been called a “misogynist” before. Those who know me–and I used to think you were among them, Anna Belle–know better.

    And “cowardly”? True, I didn’t put my real name on that post. I had my reasons. Some were selfish, some were lazy, some were altruistic. I don’t think any were “cowardly,” but I won’t contest it. Not worth the effort.

    But at least I’ve never felt the need to create my own mutual-delusion-society space wherein I can deal with calmly-phrased opposing viewpoints by deleting them rather than addressing them.

    I still care about your well-being, Belly. Seriously, get your meds recalibrated and get back on ’em. Because–and I say this as a friend–you sure seem to be on thin ice sometimes.

    (The e-mail’s real, but don’t bother. This is where I check out. I don’t need no more crazy; we’re all full up here.)

  5. Palomino says:

    Well, since you’re back, and since Annabelle isn’t around right now, let me repeat what I told you. To wit, anyone halfway skilled in textual psychoanalysis could find boatloads of overtones, undertones, and ring tones of sexuality in those dreams, so you are misinformed and/or deficient in imagination. A (limp) string bean? Creme fraiche in edible little concave tidbits? Lightning bolts? Come on. You need a dose of mental Viagra.

  6. Anna Belle says:


    Thanks for having the balls to show yourself, finally, even if you were an un-reflective asshole in doing so. Did you even read the articles linked at the top? This is a total-picture analysis, ftr, something usually within your grasp. As clearly stated, the editor in question refuted the sexism charge and my citation of the dream story is evidence of why he would. He’s a sexist partisan, a member, like yourself, of the Progressive Dude Nation. How do you like your church, buddy? Never pegged you for a believer before, but hey, apparently none of us are who we thought we were, or more importantly, what we bill ourselves as.

    As far as the med comment, whatever. I’ll leave your missive up since you finally had the fortitude to be yourself. Remember, however, that I know inside information about you as well, gathered over these seven years. Information such as your abject failure in all romantic relationships, your unwillingness to use your intelligence to support yourself, which is why you rely so heavily on family members to get your through, and your issues with whiskey and other substances. Every one has their flaws and I might not have mentioned yours at all, except you felt it necessary to try to hit me below the belt here on my own blog.

    So let’s talk about that, shall we, MJM? How much time and money did you waste running after 21 year old pussy on the west coast? You ran out there after, what, a month, and inside of another month, that pussy had rejected your sorry ass, so you returned home, tail between your legs and hid out for how long? And you want ME to take meds? Buddy, best to look at your own life before you start talking with authority about others. Remember, you asked for this. You could have kept your fucking mouth shut and ignored me like I do you.

    Speaking of not having the time or desire. I’ll allow you one rebut. After that, if you post shit like this again, I will have you sucking shit out of grandpa’s anus.

    And for any other Cowboy Junkies message board regular who wants to pile on here, keep in mind that I control comments and I can make you say anything I want you to say. You have been warned.

    PS: If you’d rather I just delete your comment and my response, MJM, just say the word. I don’t want to fight like this here either, but I figured if I deleted you again you’d just come back again. It’s your call.

  7. Monsieur Chauvin says:

    Message deleted.

  8. Palomino says:

    Shorter Monsieur Chauvin: Women are stoopid.

    Shorter Palomino: Monsieur Chauvin is no doubt a member of MENSA, the organization for stoopid people who place excessive faith in testing that was originally devised as one weapon in the arsenal of an early-twentieth-century American anti-immigration war.

    Even shorter Palomino: Monsieur Chauvin is possibly a dick but more likely a weenie.

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